Hamburg derby

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Hamburg derby
Other namesHamburger Stadtderby
LocationHamburg, Germany
TeamsHamburger SV & FC St. Pauli
First meeting7 December 1919
Latest meetingSt. Pauli 2–2 HSV
2. Bundesliga
1 December 2023
Next meetingHSV – St. Pauli
2. Bundesliga
5 May 2024
Statistics
Most winsHSV (69)
All-time seriesHSV: 69
Drawn: 17
St. Pauli: 24
Largest victorySt. Pauli 0–9 HSV
(13 November 1924)

The Hamburg derby or Hamburger Stadtderby is a football rivalry between two major Hamburg sides, Hamburger SV and FC St. Pauli.[1]

In total, the two sides met 107 times since 1919, of which Hamburger SV won 68 games and FC St. Pauli won 23 games. Earlier games between Hamburger SV, its predecessors SC Germania, Hamburger FC and FC Falke 1906, and St. Pauli TV are not counted here. Hamburger SV was formed from a merger in 1919, and FC St. Pauli was formed as a separate football side through a divorce with St. Pauli TV in 1924.

History[edit]

Hamburger SV was founded when SC Germania of 1887, Hamburger FC of 1888 and FC Falke 1906 merged in 1919 (the date of SC Germania's founding is the official club foundation year given as 1887).[citation needed] FC St. Pauli emerged in 1924 as a spin-off from the Hamburg St. Pauli Turnverein gymnastics club.[citation needed] After its foundation, Hamburger SV rose to become the largest club in the city, and after the Second World War, FC St. Pauli replaced Eimsbütteler TV as a competitor of "HSV".

The first match between HSV and St. Pauli TV was played on 7 December 1919 in the "Hamburg Championship", Hamburger SV won this match 9–0.[citation needed] The first win for FC St. Pauli, whose nickname is "Kiezkicker", came on 19 October 1930, when they won 1–0 in their first encounter in the "Oberliga Hamburg".[citation needed] Matches between Hamburger SV and FC St. Pauli were played almost every year before the two sides parted ways after the Bundesliga was founded in 1963: HSV became the record champions of the Oberliga Nord in the Bundesliga, while FC St. Pauli played in the Regionalliga Nord.[citation needed] In 1974, they moved up to the newly founded 2. Bundesliga and in 1977, they succeeded in advancing to the Bundesliga, making this the first Hamburg city derby to be held in the Bundesliga.[citation needed] In the previous season, the 1976/77 season, HSV won the 1976-77 European Cup Winners' Cup and was therefore considered the more successful club.[citation needed] Nevertheless, FC St. Pauli won the match in the Volksparkstadion, the home ground of HSV, 2–0.[citation needed] The return match was also played in the Hamburger SV stadium, although FC St. Pauli was the home team. HSV won this match 3–2, and FC St. Pauli retired from the Bundesliga at the end of the 1977/78 season.[citation needed] The next clash occurred in the 1986/87 season, when Hamburger SV played FC St. Pauli in the DFB Cup. HSV won 6–0 in their own stadium.[citation needed]

From 1988 to 1991, from 1995 to 1997, and in the 2001–02 season, FC St. Pauli played in the Bundesliga again, playing the city derbies, in which they had home rights, in the Volksparkstadion.[citation needed] Out of a total of 12 games, they were unable to win any of them (five draws, seven defeats).[citation needed] After FC St. Pauli was relegated to the 2. Bundesliga at the end of the 2001–02 season, they even had to play in the Regionalliga Nord in 2003.[citation needed] In 2007 FC St. Pauli returned to the 2. Bundesliga, and in 2010 the "Kiezkickers" finally made it back to the Bundesliga.[citation needed] The first leg on 19 October 2010 was the first game since 1962 to be played in an FC St. Pauli stadium. This ended with a 1–1 draw.[citation needed] In the return match on 16 February 2011 in the Volksparkstadion, FC St. Pauli won 1-0 through Gerald Asamoah's goal, it was FC St. Pauli's first win against Hamburger SV since 1977.[citation needed] Nevertheless, the club from the St. Pauli quarter relegated to the 2. Bundesliga at the end of the 2010/11 season.[citation needed]

With the relegation of Hamburger SV into 2. Bundesliga in 2018, the Hamburg derbies became more frequent.[citation needed] The first leg in the 2018–19 season was hosted in Volksparkstadion and ended with a goalless draw; HSV won the second leg 4-0 at Millerntor-Stadion, their first away victory in the derby in a league match in 57 years.[citation needed] Nevertheless, HSV missed the return to Bundesliga and placed fourth.[citation needed] Afterwards, St. Pauli won four of the next five fixtures in the derby, and before the league match at Volksparkstadion in January 2022, the Kiezkicker was the leader of the table, but HSV won 2-1, the first home win in over 20 years in the Hamburg derby.[citation needed] To the end of the 2021–22 season, FC St. Pauli missed the promotion to Bundesliga and placed fifth; Hamburger SV placed third and qualified for the promotion/relegation play-offs against Hertha Berlin.[citation needed] HSV won the first leg 1–0, but lost the second-leg 0-2 and missed out on promotion to Bundesliga.[citation needed]

Fans[edit]

Since the 1980s the derby is seen as both a clash of football and political ideology.[citation needed] Given the location of HSV's Volksparkstadion, St. Pauli fans often mock HSV to be a Vorstadtverein (suburban club) or St. Ellingen as HSV's Volksparkstadion is located at the outskirts of Hamburg.[citation needed] Conversely, HSV supporters mock St. Pauli - in particular their popular slogan Hamburg ist braun-weiß (Hamburg is brown-white; their colors) - as a small club whose fans are regarded as being more interested in political slogans than football.[citation needed]

The political divide was particularly notable in the 1980s, when the HSV fan scene had a small contingent of organized neo-nazi groups.[citation needed] St Pauli's supporter base is more left-wing due to its popularity among squatters and counterculture subcultures of the local area in the 80s, specifically when squatters from the Hafenstrasse and Rote Flora started attending St. Pauli matches and created the leftist fan scene the club is known for today.[2] In recent years, this has extended beyond Hamburg all across Germany and Europe.[citation needed] Additionally, over time HSV has developed a more inclusive fanbase, such as signing a refugee player[3][failed verification] and having a first team coach of color.[4][better source needed]

In 2018 there were clashes between the supporters. HSV ultras disrupted a concert where there were bands linked to St. Pauli playing. Subsequently, St. Pauli fans attacked their rivals' choreography preparations, injuring two HSV ultras in the process.[5]

Latest results[edit]

  Hamburger SV Win   FC St. Pauli Win   Draw

Date Venue Score Competition
13 November 1960 Millerntor-Stadion 1–6 1960–61 Oberliga Nord
11 March 1961 Volksparkstadion 2–2 1960–61 Oberliga Nord
16 September 1961 Volksparkstadion 3–1 1961–62 Oberliga Nord
11 March 1962 Millerntor-Stadion 1–2 1961–62 Oberliga Nord
7 October 1962 Millerntor-Stadion 1–3 1962–63 Oberliga Nord
16 February 1963 Volksparkstadion 3–2 1962–63 Oberliga Nord
2 August 1972 Millerntor-Stadion 1–4 1972–73 DFB Ligapokal (group stage)
24 August 1972 Sportplatz at Rothenbaum 0–0 1972–73 DFB Ligapokal (group stage)
3 September 1977 Volksparkstadion 0–2 1977–78 Bundesliga
28 January 1978 Volksparkstadion 2–3 1977–78 Bundesliga
19 November 1986 Volksparkstadion 6–0 1986–87 DFB Pokal (RO16)
3 September 1988 Volksparkstadion 1–1 1988–89 Bundesliga
23 March 1989 Volksparkstadion 1–2 1988–89 Bundesliga
16 September 1989 Volksparkstadion 0–0 1989–90 Bundesliga
24 March 1990 Volksparkstadion 0–0 1989–90 Bundesliga
25 November 1990 Volksparkstadion 0–2 1990–91 Bundesliga
1 June 1991 Volksparkstadion 5–0 1990–91 Bundesliga
24 November 1995 Volksparkstadion 1–0 1995–96 Bundesliga
5 May 1996 Volksparkstadion 1–1 1995–96 Bundesliga
15 September 1996 Volksparkstadion 3–0 1996–97 Bundesliga
14 March 1997 Volksparkstadion 2–2 1996–97 Bundesliga
2 December 2001 Volksparkstadion 4–3 2001–02 Bundesliga
19 April 2002 Volksparkstadion 0–4 2001–02 Bundesliga
19 September 2010 Millerntor-Stadion 1–1 2010–11 Bundesliga
16 February 2011 Volksparkstadion 0–1 2010–11 Bundesliga
30 September 2018 Volksparkstadion 0–0 2018–19 2. Bundesliga
10 March 2019 Millerntor-Stadion 0–4 2018–19 2. Bundesliga
16 September 2019 Millerntor-Stadion 2–0 2019–20 2. Bundesliga
22 February 2020 Volksparkstadion 0–2 2019–20 2. Bundesliga
30 October 2020 Volksparkstadion 2–2 2020–21 2. Bundesliga
1 March 2021 Millerntor-Stadion 1–0 2020–21 2. Bundesliga
13 August 2021 Millerntor-Stadion 3–2 2021–22 2. Bundesliga
21 January 2022 Volksparkstadion 2–1 2021–22 2. Bundesliga
14 October 2022 Millerntor-Stadion 3–0 2022–23 2. Bundesliga
21 April 2023 Volksparkstadion 4–3 2022–23 2. Bundesliga
1 December 2023 Millerntor-Stadion 2–2 2023–24 2. Bundesliga
5 May 2024 Volksparkstadion 2023–24 2. Bundesliga

All matches[edit]

As of 1 December 2023
Matches Wins
Hamburg
Draws Wins
St.Pauli
Goals
Hamburg
Goals
St.Pauli
Bundesliga Matches 16 8 6 2 29 14
2. Bundesliga Matches 11 3 3 5 16 19
DFB-Pokal Matches 3 3 0 0 14 2
DFB-Ligapokal Matches 2 1 1 0 4 1
Local and Regional Matches 78 54 7 17 283 89
Total matches 110 69 17 24 346 125

Major honors[edit]

Competition Hamburger SV FC St. Pauli
German champions/ Bundesliga 6 0
DFB-Pokal 3 0
DFL-Ligapokal 2 0
UEFA Champions League 1 0
UEFA Cup Winners' Cup 1 0
UEFA Intertoto Cup 2 0
Total 14 0

References[edit]

  1. ^ Wildhagen, Niklas. "Bundesliga Rivalries: Hamburg SV and St. Pauli". Archived from the original on 2015-02-24. Retrieved 2015-11-07.
  2. ^ Rapoport, Tamar (7 September 2020). Doing Fandom: Lessons from Football in Gender, Emotions, Space. ISBN 9783030468705.
  3. ^ "The wait is over for Hamburg's Bakery Jatta". Archived from the original on 2022-06-20. Retrieved 2022-06-20.
  4. ^ "Daniel Thioune: Who is Hamburg's new head coach?". Archived from the original on 2022-06-20. Retrieved 2022-06-20.
  5. ^ "Hamburg vs. St. Pauli: One city, two clubs, different worlds | DW | 01.10.2018". Deutsche Welle. Archived from the original on 2022-06-20. Retrieved 2022-06-20.