Eden Ramblers

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Eden Ramblers
Club information
Full nameEden Ramblers
ColoursGreen and Gold
Founded1911
Exited1913
Former details
Ground(s)
CompetitionAuckland Rugby League

Eden Ramblers was a rugby league club in Auckland which played in the Auckland Rugby League competition from 1911 to 1913. They were based in the Avondale suburb of Auckland where they largely trained and played and held meetings in Point Chevalier.

Club History[edit]

Formation[edit]

The Eden Ramblers side on May 11, 1912 at Eden Park.

On 11 April the New Zealand Herald reported that there was "every probability of a club forming in Avondale" and the league would send officials on the night of the 12th to meet with interested parties.[1] The first meeting was held in Carter's Hall, Point Chevalier on Wednesday April 12. Mr. Harry Oakley, secretary of the Auckland Rugby League presided. While Percy Ussher, treasurer also addressed the meeting. H.A. Cummings moved, and Bob Noone seconded "that a club be formed to play under Northern Union rules, to affiliate with the Auckland Provincial Rugby League". The motion was carried unanimously. Mr. John Bollard, M.P. was elected as the first president of the club and B. Noone the honorary secretary ex officio. Thirty members handed their names to the secretary. It was said that they would be made up of players representing the Avondale, Point Chevalier, and Mount Albert districts. The club stated that they intended to enter a team for both senior and junior grades. It was also noted that there had been a misunderstanding about the meeting venue and an apology was given to some of the Avondale players. Their next meeting was put down for Wednesday, 19 April at the same location.[2]

The club met again on the evening of 26 April at a meeting in the Avondale Public Hall which still stands, to the left of the Hollywood Cinema. Mr. John Bollard, M.P. (president of the club) presided over the meeting. It was decided to name the club the Eden Ramblers Football Club with their colours to be green and gold. The following were elected to their first board:- Hon. Secretary, Mr. B. Noone; management committee, Messrs W.A. Cummings, J Eddowes, W. Fairweather, M. Morrow, and J. Denyer. With the addition of “several new members” the total club membership was “close to 50”. They had already begun to organise a practice match at Victoria Park with the Ponsonby United club.[3]

On 29 April it was reported that "the newly formed Avondale club will practice with the Ponsonby players at Victoria Park" on the same day.[4] Their first ever meeting was in Point Chevalier however they practised and played some matches also in Avondale. One possible explanation for their choice of name (Eden) was that their first club president, M.P. John Bollard was the M.P. for the Eden Electorate which Avondale was a part of.

First season[edit]

The Eden club played matches on the racecourse to the left of this image from 1902.

They immediately entered a team in the first grade competition and joined Auckland Rugby League foundation clubs Ponsonby United, City Rovers, North Shore Albions, and Newton Rangers.[5] They also held their early practises at the Avondale Racecourse.[6] They held a practice match with Ponsonby on the Avondale Racecourse on 13 May.[7] They had a bye in the first round and so played an A and B match at the racecourse in order to select a “junior team”.[8] They then entered a team in the third grade as well as their senior side in A grade.[9] The results for the third grade were only partially reported. The side had 2 wins and 3 losses reported.

The Eden Ramblers first playing squad was Mew, Bert Denyer, John Denyer, Noone, Bob (Robert) Biggs, Prosser, W. Fairweather, Morrow, Don Kenealy, Ray, Brett, J Cummings, A. Walker, Harris (2), O. Patterson, and R. McGowan.[10] Their first ever official match was played against Ponsonby United at Victoria Park on 27 May. They were defeated 49 points to 10.[11] Their first ever win, which was their only one of the season was against Newton Rangers on 22 July at the Auckland Domain. They won the match 14 to 5 with Don Kenealy scoring a try, Harris 2, Fairweather 1, and Kenealy kicking a penalty.[12]

J. Cummings became their first representative player when he was selected in the forwards to play for Auckland against New Zealand on 10 June.[13][14]

During the season they held a dance at Avondale, and another at Point Chevalier. They had also rented out the Point Chevalier Hall for two nights a week for eight months.[15]

1912 Season[edit]

Their committee in 1912 was president Mr. John Bollard, M.P., vice presidents, Messrs. T. Dignan, John Potter, T.B. Clay, T. Kennealy, A.W. Page, A. Grandison, T. gardiner, Anderson, Robertson, J. Hankin, T.J. McIvor, Muir, Alley, W. Faulder, Dr. Rossiter, Secretary treasurer and delegate to the Auckland Rugby League; Mr. T.G. McIlroy; Assistant secretary, Mr. H. Morrow; Players delegates Messrs. Biggs, Kennealey, social committee, Messrs. W. and H. Fairweather, Dwyer, Biggs and Patterson. They were to hold their 1912 annual concert once again in the Point Chevalier Hall.[16]

The 1912 season also saw them field a third grade team once again. Of their reported matches they won 3 and lost 3 and finished mid table. Eden also fielded a fourth grade side which was reported to have won 1 game and lost 3 with a handful of other scores not reported. Then in 1913 they fielded two sides in the third grade and one in the fourth grade.

Exit[edit]

The team struggled and ultimately folded in 1913. On 5 April 1919 the Auckland Star reported that a "new club that has just been affiliated is the Eden Ramblers, boys from Avondale and Point Chevalier". The new team however was not to become known as the Eden Ramblers but in fact were named Point Chevalier.[17]

Playing record[edit]

Don Kenealy, their captain and sole New Zealand representative.

In 1911 they played 7 matches with 1 win and 6 losses leaving them in last place. The 1912 season saw Eden record a 2 win, 1 draw, 8 loss record. Both of their wins were against City Rovers (10-6 and 25–5).[18][19] While their draw was against Ponsonby.[20] They also entered a team in the 3rd grade competition where they won 3 and lost three to finish 4th out of 7 teams. During the 1912 season Don Kenealy was selected to play for New Zealand on their tour of Australia. He played 4 matches for them on the wing. He also played 4 times for Auckland scoring a try against Lower Waikato. While halfback Bob Biggs was their only other Auckland representative for the season playing in the same match.[21] Eden also fielded teams in the third grade and fourth grade. In 1913 they only lasted 5 games in the first grade competition before being unable to field a team. Their lone win in a 1 win, 4 loss season was against Manukau.

They finished their two and a half seasons with a 4 win, 1 draw, 18 loss record in the first grade. The club did not field any teams beyond the end of the 1913 season.

Myers Cup (first grade championship)[edit]

Season Name Pld W D L PF PA PD Pts Position (Teams)
1911 Eden Ramblers 7 1 0 6 42 149 -107 2 Fifth (Five)
1912 Eden Ramblers 10 2 1 8 78 210 -132 5 Sixth (Six)
1913 Eden Ramblers 5 1 0 4 18 124 -106 2 Fifth (Six)
1911-13 Total 22 4 1 18 138 483 -345 9 N/A

All time top point scorers (1911-1913)[edit]

The point scoring lists are compiled from matches played in the first grade championship. There were several matches with no team lists published or with point scoring details as such the list is only around 80% complete.

Top point scorers
No Player Start End Games Tries Con Pen DG Pts
1 Don Kenealy 1911 1913 14 4 6 5 0 34
2 Harris 1911 1912 8 5 0 0 0 15
3 A Innes 1912 1913 12 3 0 0 0 9
4 Bob Biggs 1911 1913 17 2 1 0 0 8
5 Bright 1912 1913 6 2 0 0 0 6
6 Brett 1911 1912 8 1 1 0 0 5
7 J Cummings 1911 - 6 1 0 0 0 3
7 W Fairweather 1911 1912 14 1 0 0 0 3
7 J Cummings 1911 - 6 1 0 0 0 3
7 Bertram Denyer 1911 1913 14 1 0 0 0 3
7 McSweeney 1912 - 1 1 0 0 0 3
7 Bond 1912 1913 11 1 0 0 0 3
7 Emmet Kenealy 1912 - 8 1 0 0 0 3
14 A Walker 1911 1912 10 0 0 0 0 0
14 Postlewaite 1912 1913 9 0 0 0 0 0
14 William Prosser 1911 1912 9 0 0 0 0 0
14 Brett 1911 1912 6 0 0 0 0 0
14 Hawkes 1912 - 6 0 0 0 0 0
14 Morrow 1911 - 6 0 0 0 0 0
14 John Denyer 1911 - 5 0 0 0 0 0
14 Maurice 1912 - 5 0 0 0 0 0
14 Ray/Rae 1911 - 5 0 0 0 0 0
14 J Allen 1913 - 4 0 0 0 0 0
14 Barker 1912 1913 4 0 0 0 0 0
14 McFadyen/McFadgen 1911 1912 4 0 0 0 0 0
14 Morris 1912 - 4 0 0 0 0 0
14 P Neville 1913 - 4 0 0 0 0 0
14 W Proctor 1913 - 4 0 0 0 0 0
14 Barton 1912 - 3 0 0 0 0 0
14 Wain 1911 - 4 0 0 0 0 0
14 H Bert 1913 - 3 0 0 0 0 0
14 V Elliott 1912 1913 3 0 0 0 0 0
14 James 1912 - 3 0 0 0 0 0
14 Toroa 1912 - 3 0 0 0 0 0
14 Hardman 1911 - 3 0 0 0 0 0
14 Hutchinson 1913 - 3 0 0 0 0 0
14 Cole 1913 - 2 0 0 0 0 0
14 Fisher 1913 - 2 0 0 0 0 0
14 Thompson 1913 - 2 0 0 0 0 0
14 Walworth 1912 - 2 0 0 0 0 0
14 Clarke 1912 - 1 0 0 0 0 0
14 Edwards 1912 - 1 0 0 0 0 0
14 Fuller 1913 - 1 0 0 0 0 0
14 Hennessey 1911 - 1 0 0 0 0 0
14 Lilly 1912 - 1 0 0 0 0 0
14 Mansell 1912 - 1 0 0 0 0 0
14 McCown 1911 - 1 0 0 0 0 0
14 McDonald 1912 - 1 0 0 0 0 0
14 McKenzie 1912 - 1 0 0 0 0 0
14 Noone 1911 - 1 0 0 0 0 0
14 Ramsey 1912 - 1 0 0 0 0 0
14 Rowe 1912 - 1 0 0 0 0 0
14 Sylvado 1913 - 1 0 0 0 0 0
14 Wilson 1912 - 1 0 0 0 0 0

Representative players[edit]

New Zealand[edit]

Player Years Appearances Tries Goals Points New Zealand Appearances Points
Don Kenealy 1911-13 (Eden Ramblers) 16 4 11 34 1912 4 0

Auckland[edit]

Auckland B[edit]

  • Bob (Robert) Biggs 1912 (2 appearances, 1 try)

References[edit]

  1. ^ "Club at Avondale". New Zealand Herald, Volume XLVIII, Issue 14652. 11 April 1911. p. 7. Retrieved 17 July 2021.
  2. ^ "New Club Formed". Auckland Star, Volume XLII, Issue 88. 13 April 1911. p. 6. Retrieved 17 July 2021.
  3. ^ "The Northern Union Game/Eden Ramblers Club". New Zealand Herald, Volume XLVIII, Issue 14666. 28 April 1911. p. 4. Retrieved 17 July 2021.
  4. ^ "The Northern Union Game/Eden Ramblers Club". New Zealand Herald, Volume XLVIII, Issue 14667. 29 April 1911. p. 9. Retrieved 5 May 2023.
  5. ^ "Auckland Provincial League". New Zealand Herald, Volume XLVIII, Issue 14670. 3 May 1911. p. 9. Retrieved 17 July 2021.
  6. ^ "Northern Union Football". Auckland Star, Volume XLII, Issue 106. 5 May 1911. p. 7. Retrieved 17 July 2021.
  7. ^ "Eden Ramblers". Auckland Star, Volume XLII, Issue 112. 12 May 1911. p. 6. Retrieved 17 July 2021.
  8. ^ "Eden Ramblers". New Zealand Herald, Volume XLVIII, Issue 14684. 19 May 1911. p. 8. Retrieved 17 July 2021.
  9. ^ "Auckland Provincial League". Auckland Star, Volume XLII, Issue 121. 23 May 1911. p. 7. Retrieved 17 July 2021.
  10. ^ "Eden Ramblers V. Ponsonby United". New Zealand Herald, Volume XLVIII, Issue 14690. 26 May 1911. p. 9. Retrieved 17 July 2021.
  11. ^ "Newton v City". Auckland Star. Vol. XLII, no. 126. 29 May 1911. p. 8. Retrieved 9 December 2019.
  12. ^ "Eden v Newton". Auckland Star. Vol. XLII, no. 174. 24 July 1911. p. 8. Retrieved 9 December 2019.
  13. ^ "Representative Match/Auckland V. New Zealand". Auckland Star, Volume XLII, Issue 132. 5 June 1911. p. 8. Retrieved 17 July 2021.
  14. ^ "New Zealand v Auckland/Win for Dominion Team". Auckland Star. Vol. XLII, no. 138. 12 June 1911. p. 8. Retrieved 15 December 2019.
  15. ^ "Eden Ramblers Club". New Zealand Herald, Volume XLIX, Issue 14956. 1 April 1912. p. 4. Retrieved 17 July 2021.
  16. ^ "Football Concert". New Zealand Herald, Volume XLIX, Issue 15068. 10 August 1938. p. 5. Retrieved 16 July 2021.
  17. ^ "Northern Union". Auckland Star, Volume L, Issue 82. 5 April 1919. p. 18. Retrieved 20 September 2021.
  18. ^ "Eden Ramblers V City Rovers". Auckland Star. Vol. XLIII, no. 138. 10 June 1912. p. 8. Retrieved 16 December 2019.
  19. ^ "Eden Ramblers Win". The New Zealand Herald. Vol. XLIX, no. 15051. 22 August 1912. p. 9. Retrieved 11 August 2019.
  20. ^ "Eden Surprise Ponsonby". The New Zealand Herald. Vol. XLIX, no. 15039. 8 July 1912. p. 9. Retrieved 11 August 2019.
  21. ^ "Lower Waikato Wins by 21 to 13". The New Zealand Herald. Vol. XLIX, no. 15063. 5 August 1912. p. 9. Retrieved 18 December 2019.